Graffiti
Graffiti around the country has been getting worse over the last couple of years and recently there has been a boy stabbed because he was tagging on somebodies fence and the owner came out and stabbed him. Although i think we would be able decrease the amount of tagging on locals property by putting up a wall in each town or city or place for people to just come along with a spray can and express their feelings by scribbling and tagging on the wall. If the wall gets too full they can just paint over it all instead of finding somewhere else to tag thus decreasing the amount of tagging on public property around New Zealand but that’s only my opinion and id like to hear what you think about this problem.
February 29th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I think thats a good idea, but what if someone did an awsome drawing on the wall that maybe took them a while or a couple of days and it gets painted over, they are not going to be very happy about it. But then they could also draw another..
I have another suggestion it is that I think the the towns and cities all over New Zealand should open up more art classes or centres. This way as you said these ‘taggers’ have some way to express themselves and their feelings doing what they really are passonite about. I think that there is a difference between ‘taggers’ because when yo see graffiti half the time it is done by a graffitti artist who has an awsome talant. And if towns and cities open centres like this these artists can be recognised.
Milly
February 29th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
i think that having a wall there will just encourage them to tag.
And, many of the taggers are maori and i think they probably wouldn’t go for the classes because they would want to keep their identity a secret. Also, because they know much of their tagging is illegal, and if their signature tagging style is recognised, they could be prosecuted.
Winiata
March 1st, 2008 at 2:59 pm
I agree that we should have graffiti walls for people who want to tag but make it a graffiti-art wall not a tagging wall. Grafffiti-art is a huge mural that has taken hours or days to make, but tagging is a random word that’s hard to read and has been done in a few seconds.
I think that grffiti-art, when done well is a lot more noticable than a word scribbled on a fence, but thats just my opinion.
Iain
March 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Hey im katie and im from Australia
This is very ture, In Australia we have alot of graffiti around. There is some great work, some people must sit there for ever.Its just a shame that its all over our citys walls. Yes they should have some art class to do or something.
Katie.
March 2nd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
i agree we should have a grafiti wall but only for art not taging. But if they want to tag why not do it on their own propety not someone elses
March 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 am
I agree with your idea about having a wall made just for tagging. However the problem is out of control in many areas and I dont feel as though this will remedy the problem completely but I do think that it will help decrease the amount of tagging through our city’s and towns.
March 3rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Hi I think that the ‘taggers’ are just tagging because they can get away with it. Its a bit like shoplifting, if you can get away with it then people are likely to do it. Anyway, I think Ivan’s idea on making a specific wall for tagging but the only down fall on that is it would cost allot of money making the wall and re painting it again.
March 3rd, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Okay, I have something else to say.. Winiata you have a good point having a wall is probably not a good idea after all as you said it encourages them to tag even more and maybe even people writing really offensive things about others on the wall. Patrick has a good point too it will cost sooo much to re-panit it over and over again and then the government would start complaining about it like they are now about painting over things beacause if you think about it there is not just going to have to be one wall but hundreds! Well I sort of agree with you Winiata because when you think about it, it isn’t just Maori youths it is all the trouble youths doing this, which may inclued Maori but I think that the finger is not pointed straight at them.
After thinking about this subject alot I start to wonder if there is even a solution to tagging beacause as much as we try and stop them there is always going to be the ones who have the attitude to keep going and think nothing of it.
Milly
March 5th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
i agree with milly these[taggers] shouldnt do what the do on other peoples property people should start up centres but as winiata said all the tough people dont want to man up and go to these centres its their problem not ours its there choice really!
March 5th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
I definitly agree with Winiata, having a wall for tagging won’t actually solve the problem completely. Sure it may help ease it a bit, but most of the people who tag have very bad attitudes and they may not use the wall they could just carry on tagging like usual. Also like Winiata said the art classes may not work because they are to ‘tough’ for it but also taggers e.g. writing their gang name or what ever isn’t really art it is usually just writing that you can’t actually read very easily.
Also it frustrates me that they think it is ‘cool’ what they are doing when many other people just think it is plain stupid.
Also how Jiordyn said ‘its their problem not ours, it’s their choice really’ to me isn’t exactly true. All this commotion is because of the taggers choosing to do what they do and it isn’t exactly their problem, they don’t really care that what they are doing is causing all well, this. So it is actually our problem or else no one would actually care.
So really to me it seems as though there isn’t a solution that will actually work completely to get rid of graffiti
March 6th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Tagging is a use of disruptive creativity.. What taggers can create with just spraypaint could just be called masterpieces!! But they decided to do these ‘masterpieces’ in our communities..
Creativity has it’s advantages and disadvantages. A disadvantage could be finding out where to paint or ‘tag’ on.. The idea of art centres being opened is a good idea because it would make a creative place but for all the right reasons..
I hope you guys understand my comment.. And all of your comments are very in-depth and detailed..
March 7th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
Personally, I don’t think a tagging wall would work, because there would need to be heaps and heaps of them. It’s not like all the taggers are in one place, so they would have to be all over New Zealand, and like Patrick said,
that would cost a lot of money. If only taggers could just tag their own property!
What annoys me, is that some people just tag their initials or gang names on walls for fame. If they want fame, I think that they are trying to get it the wrong way. I like the fact that the government are cutting down harder on tagging, by only selling spray paint to people over 18, and by making consequences more severe. (I heard about that on the news the other day).
Hayley
March 9th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I think that a wall would be more encoureging to tag, and if it gets full who would clean it? The taggeres wouldn’t, and they would go tag somewhere else and the government would ask the taggers for money to pay for the pain and the brush but they would once again so no.